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            March. 19th 1841 – 45. Cirencester Place Fitzroy Square London. Dear Sir
Mr. Neate having communicated to the other Directors of the Philharmonic Society the contents of your letter, I am desired by them to state their sincere regret that you should have so entirely mistaken their meaning respecting the desire manifested for any new Composition held out to them by you, and which with respect to the Symphony will, arose from your having, as you acknowledge, mentioned your intention of re-writing one of the Movements to Mr. Neate and several other professional friends. They are the more surprised at the umbrage you seem to have taken at them collectively, after having expressed so strong a feeling for the welfare of the Society to those gentlemen who had the pleasure of meeting you last year at Birmingham, when you gave them reason to hope they would be favoured with one of your M. S. Overtures for the ensuing Season, not yet published.
Believe me, Dear Sir, Yours most truly
W. Watts
Secretary
My dear Friend
I cannot allow this letter to pass through my hands, without assuring you how much I was gratified to find by your letter, that you remembered the making an observation to me, about writing a new movement to your Sinfonia in A, as I have a perfect recollection of the circumstance, although I could not venture to pronounce the exact words you made use of. I must however beg to assure you, that I only considered it as a conversation, and that I did not communicate it, officially, to the Philharmonic Society, but I may have alluded to it, in private, to some of my Bretheren, and so it may have travelled to the Directors, for at the commencement of the present season, and not before, I was asked if I had not heard you say, that you intended to write a new movement, and I answered in the affirmative, but that is the only communication I ever made, and I certainly did not remember the date of the last performance of the Sinfonia, or of our conversation
I have troubled you with these remarks, last you should have received any false impressions on the subject, for I am sorry to say, that there are persons, who seem to take pleasure in crying down the Philharmonic Concerts, and in finding fault with its Directors, often without much justice, and sometimes even without truth. It is very extraordinary that an Institution like the Philharmonic, which is conducted upon the most noble and disinterested principles, solely for the benefit of our art, should find enemies, but such is the fact.
We performed, at our last Concert, your magnificent works – the Lob-gesang with a Chorus of Sixty, and it went very finely. It is a beautiful composition, and it was highly appreciated. Now my dear Friend allow me to assure you, of the high esteem I entertain, for your unrivalled station as a composer, but still more for your noble and generous character as a Man, and allow me to hope that I may always have the proud distinction to boast, that I have, and am still honored by your friendship. Mrs Neate begs to join me in every assurance of regard, and I am ever yours most sincerely
C Neate          

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Cirencester Place</dateline> <dateline rend="right">Fitzroy Square</dateline> <dateline rend="right">London.</dateline> <salute rend="left">Dear Sir</salute> <p style="paragraph_without_indent"><persName xml:id="persName_98a7a3c7-3a42-4af7-82d3-f6113e4c8bb9">Mr. Neate<name key="PSN0113559" style="hidden" type="person">Neate, Charles (1784-1877)</name></persName> having communicated to the other <placeName xml:id="placeName_de07aa5f-fad5-47d1-8c99-c0e937c05513">Directors of the Philharmonic Society<name key="NST0100412" style="hidden" subtype="Direktion" type="institution">Philharmonic Society</name><settlement key="STM0100126" style="hidden" type="locality">London</settlement><country style="hidden">Großbritannien</country></placeName> the contents of <title xml:id="title_c825b341-e6e4-489f-856c-64d245c4fc05">your letter<name key="PSN0000001" style="hidden" type="author">Mendelssohn Bartholdy (bis 1816: Mendelssohn), Jacob Ludwig Felix (1809-1847)</name><name key="fmb-1841-02-25-01" style="hidden" type="letter">Felix Mendelssohn Bartholdy an Charles Neate in London; Leipzig, 25. Februar 1841</name></title>, I am desired by them to state their sincere regret that you should have so entirely mistaken their meaning respecting the desire manifested for any new Composition held out to them by you, and which with respect to the <title xml:id="title_c2c99911-e1ad-4d8c-83de-b2e2e8184c9f">Symphony<list style="hidden" type="fmb_works_directory" xml:id="list_d63df7f9-72c7-4e7c-a41f-217b7030cf86"><item n="1" sortKey="musical_works" style="hidden"></item><item n="2" sortKey="instrumental_music" style="hidden"></item><item n="3" sortKey="orchestral_music" style="hidden"></item><item n="4" sortKey="symphonies" style="hidden"></item></list><name key="PSN0000001" style="hidden" type="author">Mendelssohn Bartholdy (bis 1816: Mendelssohn), Jacob Ludwig Felix (1809-1847)</name><name key="PRC0100342" style="hidden">Sinfonie A-Dur (»Italienische«) für Orchester, [Ende 1830] bis 13. März 1833; [Juni 1834 bis Anfang 1835]<idno type="MWV">N 16</idno><idno type="op">90</idno></name></title> will, arose from your having, as you acknowledge, mentioned your intention of re-writing one of the Movements to Mr. Neate<note resp="FMBC" style="hidden" type="single_place_comment" xml:id="note_e7caa0f8-b10a-4181-8e9a-cf24bc112e04" xml:lang="en ">your intention of re-writing one of the Movements to Mr. Neate – Diese »intention«, einen neuen Satz für seine Sinfonie A-Dur (»Italienische«), op. 90 (MWV N 16), zu komponieren bezieht sich auf den Brief von William Watts vom 19. Oktober 1840 (Brief gb-1840-10-19-02), in dem dieser Mendelssohn an seine »proposed intention of writing a new First Movement to […] [the] Symphony in A« erinnerte. Vgl. dazu auch Mendelssohns Entwurf einer Antwort an Watts (Brief fmb-1840-10-19-01, Brief Nr. 2833).</note> and several other professional friends. They are the more surprised at the umbrage you seem to have taken at them collectively, after having expressed so<seg type="pagebreak"> |2| <pb n="2" type="pagebreak"></pb></seg>strong a feeling for the welfare of the <placeName xml:id="placeName_c9f87980-097a-45bb-982a-bc21970bafbd">Society<name key="NST0100287" style="hidden" subtype="" type="institution">Philharmonic Society</name><settlement key="STM0100126" style="hidden" type="locality">London</settlement><country style="hidden">Großbritannien</country></placeName> to those gentlemen who had the pleasure of meeting you <placeName xml:id="placeName_5134b7c8-94f6-4e5e-a70d-5f0d4f83769a">last year at Birmingham<name key="NST0100324" style="hidden" subtype="" type="institution">The Birmingham Triennial Music Festival</name><settlement key="STM0100323" style="hidden" type="locality">Birmingham</settlement><country style="hidden">Großbritannien</country></placeName>, when you gave them reason to hope they would be favoured with one of your <title xml:id="title_b078fb71-493f-424c-b470-a3da420b9ac6">M.S. Overtures<list style="hidden" type="fmb_works_directory" xml:id="list_7a742ff6-fbe2-40ae-96c0-54d7611bb2af"><item n="1" sortKey="musical_works" style="hidden"></item><item n="2" sortKey="unidentified_and_unspecified_works" style="hidden"></item></list><name key="PSN0000001" style="hidden" type="author">Mendelssohn Bartholdy (bis 1816: Mendelssohn), Jacob Ludwig Felix (1809-1847)</name><name key="PRC0100969" style="hidden">Ouvertüren<idno type="MWV"></idno><idno type="op"></idno></name></title> for the ensuing Season, not yet published.</p> <closer rend="right">Believe me, Dear Sir,</closer> <signed rend="right">Yours most truly</signed> <signed rend="right">W. Watts</signed> <signed rend="right">Secretary</signed> </div> <div n="2" type="act_of_writing" xml:id="div_a2518bcf-1fe4-45e8-8032-32c19e94d734"> <docAuthor key="PSN0113559" resp="author" style="hidden" xml:id="docAuthor_ff9886be-3c95-407f-a42a-98de47a2c1f6">Neate, Charles (1784-1877)</docAuthor> <docAuthor key="PSN0113559" resp="writer" style="hidden" xml:id="docAuthor_ffea682c-88c4-4576-9542-f43e84d2dd2d">Neate, Charles (1784-1877)</docAuthor> <salute rend="left">My dear Friend</salute> <p style="paragraph_without_indent">I cannot allow this letter to pass through my hands, without assuring you how much I was gratified to find by your letter, that you remembered the making an observation to me, about writing a new movement to your <title xml:id="title_5a98575a-ccde-44f0-8627-bfab47c8a2e3">Sinfonia in A<list style="hidden" type="fmb_works_directory" xml:id="list_00eb4688-e117-445a-a996-c2d72eba8d37"><item n="1" sortKey="musical_works" style="hidden"></item><item n="2" sortKey="instrumental_music" style="hidden"></item><item n="3" sortKey="orchestral_music" style="hidden"></item><item n="4" sortKey="symphonies" style="hidden"></item></list><name key="PSN0000001" style="hidden" type="author">Mendelssohn Bartholdy (bis 1816: Mendelssohn), Jacob Ludwig Felix (1809-1847)</name><name key="PRC0100342" style="hidden">Sinfonie A-Dur (»Italienische«) für Orchester, [Ende 1830] bis 13. März 1833; [Juni 1834 bis Anfang 1835]<idno type="MWV">N 16</idno><idno type="op">90</idno></name></title>, as I have a perfect recollection of the circumstance, although I could not venture to pronounce the exact words you made use of. I must however beg to assure you, that I only considered it as a conversation, and that I did not communicate it, officially, to the <placeName xml:id="placeName_d227dfd0-1ad5-4cfe-9eb2-18b0ad944950">Philharmonic Society<name key="NST0100287" style="hidden" subtype="" type="institution">Philharmonic Society</name><settlement key="STM0100126" style="hidden" type="locality">London</settlement><country style="hidden">Großbritannien</country></placeName>, but I may have alluded to it, in private, to some of my Bretheren, and so it may have travelled to the <placeName xml:id="placeName_9cd8ed75-6bb9-4660-9d77-2a8f1c55fd05">Directors<name key="NST0100412" style="hidden" subtype="Direktion" type="institution">Philharmonic Society</name><settlement key="STM0100126" style="hidden" type="locality">London</settlement><country style="hidden">Großbritannien</country></placeName>, for at the<seg type="pagebreak"> |3| <pb n="3" type="pagebreak"></pb></seg>commencement of the present season, and not before, I was asked if I had not heard you say, that you intended to write a new movement, and I answered in the affirmative, but that is the only communication I ever made, and I certainly did not remember the date of the last performance of the Sinfonia, or of our conversation</p> <p>I have troubled you with these remarks, last you should have received any false impressions on the subject, for I am sorry to say, that there are persons, who seem to take pleasure in crying down the Philharmonic Concerts, and in finding fault with its Directors, often without much justice, and sometimes even without truth. It is very extraordinary that an Institution like the Philharmonic, which is conducted upon the most noble and disinterested principles, solely for the benefit of our art, should find enemies, but such is the fact.</p> <p>We performed, at our last Concert,<note resp="FMBC" style="hidden" type="single_place_comment" xml:id="note_105b3ab0-a318-45a5-877d-c18b2af08d9d" xml:lang="en ">our last Concert – das zweite Konzert der Philharmonic Society am 15. März 1841.</note> your magnificent works – the <title xml:id="title_537750e9-70f9-4c66-9500-ca0402b5b54a">Lob-gesang<list style="hidden" type="fmb_works_directory" xml:id="list_d7531f3f-e98b-4af8-aaf4-1602a448628e"><item n="1" sortKey="musical_works" style="hidden"></item><item n="2" sortKey="vocal_music" style="hidden"></item><item n="3" sortKey="sacred_vocal_music" style="hidden"></item><item n="4" sortKey="large-scale_sacred_vocal_works" style="hidden"></item></list><name key="PSN0000001" style="hidden" type="author">Mendelssohn Bartholdy (bis 1816: Mendelssohn), Jacob Ludwig Felix (1809-1847)</name><name key="PRC0100118" style="hidden">Lobgesang / Hymn of Praise, Eine Sinfonie-Kantate nach Worten der Heiligen Schrift für Solostimmen, gemischten Chor, Orchester und Orgel, [erste Jahreshälfte 1840]; 27. November 1840<idno type="MWV">A 18</idno><idno type="op">52</idno></name></title> with a Chorus of Sixty, and it went very finely. It is a beautiful composition, and it was highly appreciated. Now my dear Friend allow me to assure you, of the high esteem I entertain, for your unrivalled station as a composer, but still more for your noble and generous character as a Man, and allow me to hope that I may always have the proud distinction to boast, that I have, and am still honored by your friendship. M<hi rend="superscript">rs</hi> Neate begs to join me in every assurance of regard, and I am ever yours most sincerely</p> <signed rend="right">C Neate</signed> </div> </body> </text></TEI>