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Elizabeth Horsley an Felix Mendelssohn Bartholdy in Leipzig <lb></lb>London, 1. Januar 1839 I am sure your long friendship for Mr Horsley and myself, will make you excuse the trouble I am about to give you in asking your opinion on a subject which occupies much of our Felix Mendelssohn Bartholdy Correspondence Online (FMB-C) unbekannt Felix Mendelssohn Bartholdy an Elizabeth Horsley in Kensington; Leipzig, 17. Januar 1839 Horsley, Elizabeth Hutchins (1793-1875)Horsley, Elizabeth Hutchins (1793-1875) Transkription: FMB-C Edition: FMB-C Felix Mendelssohn Bartholdy Correspondence Online-Ausgabe (FMB-C). Institut für Musikwissenschaft und Medienwissenschaft. Humboldt-Universität zu Berlin
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Maschinenlesbare Übertragung der vollständigen Korrespondenz Felix Mendelssohn Bartholdys (FMB-C)

Großbritannien Oxford GB-Ob Oxford, Bodleian Library Music Section M.D.M. d. 35/5 Autograph Elizabeth Horsley an Felix Mendelssohn Bartholdy in Leipzig; London, 1. Januar 1839 I am sure your long friendship for Mr Horsley and myself, will make you excuse the trouble I am about to give you in asking your opinion on a subject which occupies much of our

1 Doppelbl.: S. 1-3 Brieftext; S. 4 Adresse. Der Brief ist vollständig in lateinischen Buchstaben geschrieben.

Elizabeth Horsley

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Die Felix Mendelssohn Bartholdy Correspondence Online-Ausgabe FMB-C ediert die Gesamtkorrespondenz des Komponisten Felix Mendelssohn Bartholdy 1809-1847 in Form einer digitalen, wissenschaftlich-kritischen Online-Ausgabe. Sie bietet neben der diplomatischen Wiedergabe der rund 6.000 Briefe Mendelssohns erstmals auch eine Gesamtausgabe der über 7.200 Briefe an den Komponisten sowie einen textkritischen, inhalts- und kontexterschließenden Kommentar aller Briefe. Sie wird ergänzt durch eine Personen- und Werkdatenbank, eine Lebenschronologie Mendelssohns, zahlreicher Register der Briefe, Werke, Orte und Körperschaften sowie weitere Verzeichnisse. Philologisches Konzept, Philologische FMB-C-Editionsrichtlinien: Uta Wald, Dr. Ulrich Taschow. Digitales Konzept, Digitale FMB-C-Editionsrichtlinien: Dr. Ulrich Taschow. Technische Konzeption der Felix Mendelssohn Bartholdy Correspondence FMB-C Ausgabe und Webdesign: Dr. Ulrich Taschow.

1. Januar 1839 Horsley, Elizabeth Hutchins (1793-1875)counter-resetHorsley, Elizabeth Hutchins (1793–1875) LondonGroßbritannien Mendelssohn Bartholdy (bis 1816: Mendelssohn), Jacob Ludwig Felix (1809-1847) LeipzigDeutschland englisch
Felix Mendelssohn Bartholdy Esqre Leipsic.
Horsley, Elizabeth Hutchins (1793–1875) Horsley, Elizabeth Hutchins (1793–1875) Kensington Gravel Pits. January 1. 1839. My dear Sir

I am sure your long friendship for Mr HorsleyHorsley, William (1774-1858) and myself, will make you excuse the trouble I am about to give you in asking your opinion on a subject which occupies much of our thoughts at this moment.

We have several times been urged by Mr NeukommNeukomm, Sigismund (seit 1815) Ritter von (1778-1858), MoschelesMoscheles, Ignaz (Isack) (1794-1870), & other friends to send CharlesHorsley, Charles Edward (1822-1876) to Germany,send Charles to Germany – Charles Edward Horsley plante, ein Musikstudium in Deutsch- land aufzunehmen. Anfang der 1840er-Jahre war er in Leipzig Schüler von Mendelssohn und wurde (wie sein Vater William) Komponist. for the purpose of pursuing his Musical education, & this has been still more strongly pressed on us of later, by our friend Mr BenedictBenedict, (seit 1871) Sir Julius (Jules) (vorh. Isaac) (1804-1885). Mr HorsleyHorsley, William (1774-1858) has hitherto thought that it would be more advantageous to Charles, that his visit should be defer="defer"red until he was sufficiently advanced, to profit by the highest class of instruction; but circumstances have proved to him, how unfit LondonLondonGroßbritannien & its neighbourhood are for the steady & unpermitting study of such a profession, since here music is chiefly considered as the means of making money, & since there are so few opportunities of associating with men truly devoted to this art.

|2| With these feelings, Mr Horsley is now anxious to make some arrangement with a German professor, of some knowledge & talent, whose residence is in a quiet city & we have been very strongly advised to enter with a correspondence, with Mr HauptmannHauptmann, Carl Moritz (1792-1868)Hauptmann – Der Violinist, Komponist und Musiktheore tiker Moritz Hauptmann, ein Schüler von Louis Spohr, war einer der renommiertesten Kompositionslehrer seiner Zeit. Mendelssohn empfahl ihn 1842 für den Posten des Leipziger Thomaskantors und berief ihn 1843 als Lehrer für Musiktheorie und Komposition an das neu gegründete Königliche Konservatorium der Musik, Leipzig. of CasselKasselDeutschland, whom Mr Benedict considers a profound & excellent practical Musician & a man of general acquirements & of the highest moral character. This account has been confirmed by Blagrove who became well acquainted with Hauptmann during his stay with SpohrSpohr, Louis (Ludewig) (1784-1859),Spohr – Spohr war nicht nur ein gefeierter Violinvirtuose und ein respektierter Komponist und Dirigent, sondern auch ein engagierter Lehrer, der seine Schüler über das Violinspiel hinaus zu ganzheitlich gebildeten und vielseitig interessierten Menschen heranzuziehen suchte. Sein Geigenspiel wurde, im Unterschied zur französischen Violinschule oder zu Paganini, als ausgesprochen deutsch empfunden, da es trotz allem romantischen Ausdrucksstrebens auf klassischer Formstrenge beharrte. Diese prägte auch seine Kompositionen und trug ihm schon zu Lebzeiten den Vorwurf des Manierismus ein. but who assures us that this gentleman is not of Spohr’s school to which Mr Horsley has a decided objection. Mr KlingemannKlingemann, Ernst Georg Carl Christoph Konrad (1798-1862) too, remembers the terms of praise in which your friend Mr HauserHauser, Franz (František) (1794-1870) spoke of Mr Hauptmann’s great knowledge. With all these recommendations however, Mr Horsley is still most desirous of obtaining your opinion, if you should |3| know this gentleman personally or by reputation, for you will believe how greatly we should value it above all others.

We are very unwilling to intrude at all an time which we know is so precious to you, but if you could oblige us with an early answer to this enquiry you would be doing us a great favour.

We were all much concerned to hear that you had had a sick house with measles some time since. I trust that this letter will find you, Mr F Mendelssohn & your little boyMendelssohn Bartholdy, Carl (seit ca. 1859: Karl) Wolfgang Paul (1838-1897) in good health. We are all quite well & write in every kind & good wish to you & yours. Pray make my particular remembrances to Mrs F MendelssohnMendelssohn Bartholdy, Cécile Sophie Charlotte (1817-1853) & believe me dear Sir your most sincerely

Eliz. H Horsley
Horsley, Elizabeth Hutchins (1793–1875) Horsley, Elizabeth Hutchins (1793–1875)

FannyHorsley, Frances Arabella (Fanny) → Thompson (1815-1849) thanks you for your note which she ought to have answered long ago. Our mutual friends are all well.

            Kensington Gravel Pits. January 1. 1839. My dear Sir
I am sure your long friendship for Mr Horsley and myself, will make you excuse the trouble I am about to give you in asking your opinion on a subject which occupies much of our thoughts at this moment.
We have several times been urged by Mr Neukomm, Moscheles, & other friends to send Charles to Germany, for the purpose of pursuing his Musical education, & this has been still more strongly pressed on us of later, by our friend Mr Benedict. Mr Horsley has hitherto thought that it would be more advantageous to Charles, that his visit should be defer="defer"red until he was sufficiently advanced, to profit by the highest class of instruction; but circumstances have proved to him, how unfit London & its neighbourhood are for the steady & unpermitting study of such a profession, since here music is chiefly considered as the means of making money, & since there are so few opportunities of associating with men truly devoted to this art.
 With these feelings, Mr Horsley is now anxious to make some arrangement with a German professor, of some knowledge & talent, whose residence is in a quiet city & we have been very strongly advised to enter with a correspondence, with Mr Hauptmann of Cassel, whom Mr Benedict considers a profound & excellent practical Musician & a man of general acquirements & of the highest moral character. This account has been confirmed by Blagrove who became well acquainted with Hauptmann during his stay with Spohr, but who assures us that this gentleman is not of Spohr’s school to which Mr Horsley has a decided objection. Mr Klingemann too, remembers the terms of praise in which your friend Mr Hauser spoke of Mr Hauptmann’s great knowledge. With all these recommendations however, Mr Horsley is still most desirous of obtaining your opinion, if you should know this gentleman personally or by reputation, for you will believe how greatly we should value it above all others.
We are very unwilling to intrude at all an time which we know is so precious to you, but if you could oblige us with an early answer to this enquiry you would be doing us a great favour.
We were all much concerned to hear that you had had a sick house with measles some time since. I trust that this letter will find you, Mr F Mendelssohn & your little boy in good health. We are all quite well & write in every kind & good wish to you & yours. Pray make my particular remembrances to Mrs F Mendelssohn & believe me dear Sir your most sincerely
Eliz. H Horsley
Fanny thanks you for your note which she ought to have answered long ago. Our mutual friends are all well.          
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Mendelssohn empfahl ihn 1842 für den Posten des Leipziger Thomaskantors und berief ihn 1843 als Lehrer für Musiktheorie und Komposition an das neu gegründete Königliche Konservatorium der Musik, Leipzig.</note> of <placeName xml:id="placeName_8498ffc9-20ca-4ac2-964d-40d113a32926">Cassel<settlement key="STM0100115" style="hidden" type="locality">Kassel</settlement><country style="hidden">Deutschland</country></placeName>, whom Mr Benedict considers a profound &amp; excellent practical Musician &amp; a man of general acquirements &amp; of the highest moral character. 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Diese prägte auch seine Kompositionen und trug ihm schon zu Lebzeiten den Vorwurf des Manierismus ein.</note> but who assures us that this gentleman is not of Spohr’s school to which Mr Horsley has a decided objection. Mr <persName xml:id="persName_b490a883-7f90-4a9d-b85f-2917e0359de8">Klingemann<name key="PSN0112434" style="hidden" type="person">Klingemann, Ernst Georg Carl Christoph Konrad (1798-1862)</name></persName> too, remembers the terms of praise in which your friend Mr <persName xml:id="persName_5fbe1928-37dc-4bbe-9807-00751b09229e">Hauser<name key="PSN0111775" style="hidden" type="person">Hauser, Franz (František) (1794-1870)</name></persName> spoke of Mr Hauptmann’s great knowledge. With all these recommendations however, Mr Horsley is still most desirous of obtaining your opinion, if you should<seg type="pagebreak"> |3|<pb n="3" type="pagebreak"></pb></seg> know this gentleman personally or by reputation, for you will believe how greatly we should value it above all others.</p> <p>We are very unwilling to intrude at all an time which we know is so precious to you, but if you could oblige us with an <hi n="1" rend="underline">early</hi> answer to this enquiry you would be doing us a great favour.</p> <p> We were all much concerned to hear that you had had a sick house with measles some time since. I trust that this letter will find you, Mr F Mendelssohn &amp; <persName xml:id="persName_450958f1-633e-4c26-a3f2-b9c35e554344">your little boy<name key="PSN0113251" style="hidden" type="person">Mendelssohn Bartholdy, Carl (seit ca. 1859: Karl) Wolfgang Paul (1838-1897)</name></persName> in good health. We are all quite well &amp; write in every kind &amp; good wish to you &amp; yours. Pray make my particular remembrances to <persName xml:id="persName_0f99a366-bea3-42ce-8c2a-9feb216906ef">M<hi rend="superscript">rs</hi> F Mendelssohn<name key="PSN0113252" style="hidden" type="person">Mendelssohn Bartholdy, Cécile Sophie Charlotte (1817-1853)</name></persName> &amp; believe me dear Sir your most sincerely</p> <signed rend="right">Eliz. H Horsley</signed> </div> <div n="2" type="act_of_writing" xml:id="div_aa28aa05-74c2-4dcc-8609-ee95e02e3db4"> <docAuthor key="PSN0112103" resp="author" style="hidden" xml:id="docAuthor_eb309f4e-381b-4441-9480-645215065fc0">Horsley, Elizabeth Hutchins (1793–1875)</docAuthor> <docAuthor key="PSN0112103" resp="writer" style="hidden" xml:id="docAuthor_ba3371ef-867a-4303-8ea6-7211600f3fb4">Horsley, Elizabeth Hutchins (1793–1875)</docAuthor> <p style="paragraph_without_indent"><persName xml:id="persName_8342489c-0d47-4c51-9f24-14a1a5e2e12b">Fanny<name key="PSN0112105" style="hidden" type="person">Horsley, Frances Arabella (Fanny) → Thompson (1815-1849)</name></persName> thanks you for your note which she ought to have answered long ago. Our mutual friends are all well.</p> </div> </body> </text></TEI>